Re: Ty's 1996 4Runner "FARM TOY"

by **Kevin** Thu May 01, 2014 3:09 am

I figure if you're going to spend over $500 on a locker, you might as well lay out a couple hundred more and get a selectable. There were a couple spots this last weekend where it was very nice to be able to turn off the elocker in the wiferunner - I can't do that with the Spartan automatic in the Bastard. I vote you skip the Detroit - weld it up and leave it that way, or get into a selectable. Ox Locker makes a locker for the 44, right? I've always thought manually actuated lockers were the best.

by Ty Thu May 01, 2014 3:13 am

Honestly in the rear I don't care whether it's selectable or not. If I go this route I will take what I can get the best deal on! I've seen a bunch of Detroits lately for $400 or less! Most of them were upgrading to dana 60s.

by **Kevin** Thu May 01, 2014 3:14 am

Just weld it then, and save a buck. If you're not daily driving it, you don't really need to worry about tire wear, right?

by Ty Thu May 01, 2014 3:22 am

The only thing I wiry about with the welded is if we go on any winter runs. I heard they are scary as shit to drive in the snow!

by **Kevin** Thu May 01, 2014 3:47 am

No scarier than an automatic. Sidehilling in mud or snow with the Spartan is sketchy, it'd be the same with any other automatic. I don't see a difference between the Detroit and a welded carrier there.

by Ty Thu May 01, 2014 3:48 am

True that!

by Ty Thu May 01, 2014 3:49 am

However driving my dad's orange Jeep with the welded rear end is a whole lot differant than it was when it had the Detroit. I don't know why but it was.

by **Kevin** Thu May 01, 2014 4:26 am

I've never driven a truck with a welded rear, but if I had to guess I'd say that the difference was probably that the welded rear was more predictable? If I turn tight into an obstacle, it sometimes takes a second for the Spartan to go from unlock to lock, and if I'm not paying attention the extra traction halfway up the obstacle catches me by surprise. Wouldn't have that problem with a welded rear.

by Monsteryota Thu May 01, 2014 9:20 am

I had a 94 Cherokee a few yrs back with a weilded rear and yes in the winter it is easier to spin out then open but Detroit lockers are the same as spool and wielded as far as selectable manual is better like a cable lock less things can go wrong. But this is my opinion and my experience take it as just that. If you weild it make sure it is welded very well in very spot you can. Bridge gaps with something. I welded the rear diff in my dads second gen for moab.and welded nuts between the teath on the four Pinons

by Ty Fri May 02, 2014 2:19 am

Well my dad VETOed the weld thing. He says if you're going to do it do it right. So the plan is back to selling the Toyota axle to build the 44.

by **offroad_medic** Fri May 02, 2014 9:46 pm

Ty wrote:Well my dad VETOed the weld thing. He says if you're going to do it do it right. So the plan is back to selling the Toyota axle to build the 44.

We'll this probably made Kevin do a happy dance somewhere.

by Ty Tue May 06, 2014 4:25 am

Kevin you need to get some money! I think we could make this happen right close to $550. That's a pretty good price for an e-locker axle already set up with 5.29s and new bearings!!

by **Kevin** Tue May 06, 2014 4:45 am

Ty wrote:Kevin you need to get some money! I think we could make this happen right close to $550. That's a pretty good price for an e-locker axle already set up with 5.29s and new bearings!!

I'm working on it. I've blown my truck budget for the year on the swap, so I need to sell some junk or save my allowance Very Happy

. I'd do $550 if you throw in the harness and switch, you wanna take payments?

by Ty Tue May 06, 2014 4:53 am

I was planning on the harness and switch going with it. As far as I know I will have no need for them!

I can do payments if you want. You just can't have the axle until I can put the new one in!

by **Kevin** Tue May 06, 2014 4:59 am

Ty wrote:You just can't have the axle until I can put the new one in!

That's a deal breaker. The goal here is to have my truck awesome and your truck not. You have to give me the axle first so I can have a front locker and be awesome.

by Ty Tue May 06, 2014 5:02 am

I've got AJ buying an axle so I should be able to put that toward gears, and I get a bonus in June that hopefully I can use some of it to put toward the locker. I just need to decide whether I want a used Detroit or a new Spartan. At this point the only advantage of the Detroit is I don't have to come up with a carrier.

Lets hold off on payments until I can see if I can make it happen with out then you can just buy it out right. Then I will use the money from you to buy some tires or a winch!!!!!!

by Ty Tue May 06, 2014 5:03 am

Kevin wrote:
Ty wrote:You just can't have the axle until I can put the new one in!

That's a deal breaker. The goal here is to have my truck awesome and your truck not. You have to give me the axle first so I can have a front locker and be awesome.

Yah, we could do that and my truck could sit in the shop again!! if that's what you really want!!!!

by **Kevin** Tue May 06, 2014 5:30 am

I thought you liked having your truck torn apart.

by Ty Tue May 06, 2014 5:38 am

Just because it seems like it's torn apart all the time doesn't mean I like it that way.

by Ty Wed May 07, 2014 8:54 am

Good news! My brain farted and I remembered that not too long ago my dad had a build dana 44 in the rear of his CJ. Well it just so happens that he bent the housing. Instead of building a new 44 he upgraded to a Ford 8.8 and still had the 44 sitting in the shop untouched! He is going to open it up and make sure everything is still in working order then we will move it over to my 44. Then when Kevin had the money to buy my axle I can pay my dad for his stuff!

by Ty Sat May 10, 2014 5:11 am

My dad decided he wanted a new set of tires for his jeep and is going to let me Borrow to Own the ones he is pulling off! They are 35 13.50 15. About 75% tread. Problem is I have 16 inch wheels. So I need need to find a set of 15x10 inch wheels on the VERY CHEAP!!! Keep your eyes open for me!

by Monsteryota Sun May 11, 2014 4:28 am

I have the 15x 10 steel wheels off of monster

by Ty Fri May 16, 2014 7:03 am

Finally got the rear bumper painted!

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Problem is when it was primer it stuck out now I can't tell it's even there!! I think it looks good.

by Ty Wed May 28, 2014 12:18 am

Andrew so generously offered to let me borrow his 37s for Moab!! Now I don't want to give them back!!!!

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