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Post by dutchman on Wed May 31, 2017 3:27 pm

I think this thread is necessary as the number of 1wd knobby-tired lung-burners on the forum has increased.





Has anyone been here? MTB Park-Ogden

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Post by TRD270 on Wed May 31, 2017 4:22 pm

Ogden? Isn't that where you go to have your mountain bike stolen?

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Post by Kevin on Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:23 am

I don't know about gap jumps. I can't even bunny.

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Post by dutchman on Thu Jun 01, 2017 9:45 am

TRD270 wrote:Ogden? Isn't that where you go to have your mountain bike stolen?

Part of Ogden for sure.

Kevin wrote:I don't know about gap jumps.  I can't even bunny.

You have to run before you can walk.

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Re: Official MTB Thread

Post by MacKay on Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:12 pm

I've never been to the Bike Park in Ogden. I do put in a little bit of time at Corner Canyon in Draper and Lambert Park in Alpine.
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Re: Official MTB Thread

Post by Kevin on Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:53 pm

I lost my crank arm for the second time on the Klondike trails in Moab last weekend. I got it home and cleaned it up really well, it doesn't look damaged so I put it back together and torqued it carefully and I'll give it one more shot before I'll have to spring for a new crank set.

Thing is, I really want to go to a 1x drivetrain and I can't afford to do it right now so I'm going to get as much life as I can out of this silly POS.

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Post by Kevin on Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:10 pm

Anybody want to ride Sunday morning? Thinking about Corner Canyon, but whaddeva.

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Post by MacKay on Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:12 pm

I think I'm going to ride there on Thursday. Probably early morning, or maybe after work.
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Post by TRD270 on Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:40 pm

Kevin wrote:Anybody want to ride Sunday morning?  Thinking about Corner Canyon, but whaddeva.

Define morning

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Post by MacKay on Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:46 pm

I need to be at work at 8:30 a.m. So probably 6:30 a.m. at the trailhead? This is unless my newborn has a bad night...
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Post by Kevin on Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:45 pm

TRD270 wrote:
Kevin wrote:Anybody want to ride Sunday morning?  Thinking about Corner Canyon, but whaddeva.

Define morning

Sometime between "why is it so dark and WhereTF is the damned trail" and "OMG SOMEBODY SAVE ME FROM THE FIERY ORB OF DEATH"?

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Post by Kevin on Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:46 pm

MacKay wrote:I need to be at work at 8:30 a.m. So probably 6:30 a.m. at the trailhead? This is unless my newborn has a bad night...

I'm no good Thursday morning, working in Layton at 0800.

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Post by Kevin on Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:40 am

Josh and I tried to ride Corner Canyon yesterday.  Busted my derailleur hanger three miles in.  Coasting.  On flat trail.  Not pedaling, not shifting, not running into rocks.  Snap.  That's two for two, if something breaks the next I ride with Josh I'm going to start suspecting foul play.

On a side note, it's ridiculous how much they want for one of those little hangers.

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Re: Official MTB Thread

Post by dutchman on Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:32 am

That seems suspicious...

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Post by TRD270 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:33 am

I think the trooper sabotaged it

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Re: Official MTB Thread

Post by Kevin on Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:49 pm

Ghetto tubeless!  I've seen it on Youtube so I'm totally an expert.  We'll see if it works.

Stripped the wheel down, removed the rim strip, cleaned it with degreaser and then brake cleaner.


Several companies make replacement liners, but this is ghetto.  Cut a strip of Gorilla Tape just slightly wider than the inside of the wheel.  Pull it on, tight.  Tighter.  Tighter.  Oh baby.  Overlap the stem hole by several inches on each side, they say.


Press the tape down hard (oh baby) on the edges, make sure it's well seated.


Again, you can buy replacement stems specifically for the tubeless conversion.  Again, f@$& all that, I don't have time to do this crap right.  I hacked this stem out of an old tube I got tired of patching.  I tried to trim enough rubber that it sits down between the the wheel walls well but leave enough that it has a chance to seal.  I may have trimmed too much?  One way to find out.


Cut an x in the Gorilla Tape just large enough to slip the stem through.  And then take a picture of it, because I forgot.

Moment of truth, can I seat the bead?


Yes, yes I can.  I can hear a little air escaping at the stem, but for the most part it's holding.  Part two later, I'm still researching exactly which sealant to use.  But at least now I know it'll (probably) work.

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Post by dutchman on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:30 pm

So... if you put a small hole in the tire, will it leak?

Advantages of being tubeless?

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Post by Kevin on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:34 pm

dutchman wrote:So... if you put a small hole in the tire, will it leak?

Advantages of being tubeless?

The sealant stays liquid inside the tire, and theoretically seals any leaks.

Advantages are less weight, lower PSI with much less risk of pinch flats.

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Post by TRD270 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:36 pm

dutchman wrote:So... if you put a small hole in the tire, will it leak?

Advantages of being tubeless?

With sealant it should seal and not leak with a small hole.

Biggest advantage to tubeless is being able to run a lower pressure without worrying about pinch flats. Slightly less rolling mass, and small punctures should seal up

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Post by TRD270 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:40 pm

Want to throw this up here as well if anyone is interested. I recently bought a Diamondback Sync'r, it may be responsible for sabotaging Kevin's bike. I've decided to buy a full suspension, and do some upgrades to my older hardtail instead. It's an XL frame, fun bike, few scratches from Kevin laughing at my clipless fails. 50ish miles on it

Asking $750 (new retail is $1200)

https://www.diamondback.com/mountain-bikes/sync-r

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Post by dutchman on Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:44 pm

Kevin wrote:
dutchman wrote:So... if you put a small hole in the tire, will it leak?

Advantages of being tubeless?

The sealant stays liquid inside the tire, and theoretically seals any leaks.

Advantages are less weight, lower PSI with much less risk of pinch flats.

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dutchman wrote:So... if you put a small hole in the tire, will it leak?

Advantages of being tubeless?

With sealant it should seal and not leak with a small hole.

Biggest advantage to tubeless is being able to run a lower pressure without worrying about pinch flats. Slightly less rolling mass, and small punctures should seal up

I understand now.

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Post by TRD270 on Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:56 pm

You get your bike fixed Kevin?

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Post by Kevin on Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:09 am

TRD270 wrote:You get your bike fixed Kevin?

Parts are in the mail.

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Post by frieed on Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:13 pm

I want to do a day trip to Strawberry Narrows this weekend,
https://www.trailforks.com/trails/strawberry-narrows/
if anyone is interested.
I plan to park at the Marina then ride out and back.


Also interesting for a shuttle ride is Willow Creek
https://www.trailforks.com/trails/willow-creek-10843/
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Post by Kevin on Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:52 am

I really want to canoe the Narrows.

Which marina are you starting at? There's one on both ends.

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